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jimcondon

8/30/2010 10:24 AM EDT

Dave,

I agree with the video quality issue with online video, but ...

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Dave.Dykstra

8/30/2010 3:04 AM EDT

Personally, I think some of the other products are far more exciting than Google ...

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Sony: 3-D sweep, Wi-Fi remote, netbox but still no Google TV

Junko Yoshida

8/26/2010 9:17 AM EDT

NEW YORK – Sony opened on Broadway Wednesday (Aug. 25) but left Barbra Streisand – Google TV, that is – backstage.

Sony’s  media spectacle, at its headquarters, debuted a host of new products including a series of digital cameras with 3-D sweep panorama mode; a new lineup of 3-D LCD TVs with LED backlighting; Android-based Xperia smartphones; Netbox, a small set-top to enable your TV to get connected with walled garden Internet video services; and more. But conspicuously absent was Google TV.

Of course, let’s be fair. Google TV is scheduled for launch “this fall,” and this is still August.

But come on. The blog StuffWeLike had already scooped the rest of the media by showing snippets of what Google TV does. This was possible because Google demonstrated it late last month at -- among all places -- Comic-Con, a comic book and popular arts convention held in San Diego.

So, wasn’t it reasonable for the invited media to expect something from Sony about Google TV?

Google has been working with Sony (TV sets and Blu-ray integrated with Google TV), Logitech (Google TV add-on for regular TVs) and other partners such as Dish Network (Google TV-integrated DVR).

Does this mean other vendors could beat Sony, coming out with Google TV-enabled gadgets first? To this impertinent question, Michael Patton, Sony’s TV marketing product manager, said, “Sony has been working with Google for months. Hardware may be ready, but I can assure you that Google TV software isn’t.”

As a long-time skeptic of Internet TV (sometimes I regret I’ve been in this business too long to remember all the failed efforts in the past), I’ve been struggling to “get” the allure of Google TV.

Sony’s Patton, however, clarified one thing for me. “Google is a search-engine company, right?” he said. “Google TV enables you to do what you expect in search – on TV.”

In short, Google TV isn’t about bringing Internet to TV at all. It’s about bringing a search function to TV.

That means, in theory, I can find -- quickly and effortlessly -- what I want to watch now, regardless of whether it’s live broadcast TV, online video, podcast or DVR content. It doesn’t matter where the content resides.

Now, that’s pretty cool.

But I have no idea how Google TV (a new Google TV set-top by Logitech, for example) could seamlessly work with devices I already have at home today, including my Cablevision set-top box; DVD (not Blu-ray) player; LCD TV; and MAC at home. Well, most likely it won’t, because none of my old stuff (although I bought them all in the last three years!) has WiFi (except for MAC); and there are no other means of digitally connecting them in the dread futurama of “home networking.”

My problem won’t stop there. When do you think my cable operator will start talking to Google so that my next DVR will come with Google TV? Well, hope springs eternal.

That said, let’s concede that Google TV is taking a step in the right direction: It’s focused on the very function many of us want -- such as universal search.

Sony’s Netbox, on the other hand, belongs to a very different product category from Google TV. Yes, the tiny set-top allows your TV to get connected to Sony’s Bravia Internet video, including Crackle, YouTube, Netflix and others. But its mission is in bringing to TV new content from the walled garden audio/video services available on the Internet. It’s not designed to let you venture out in the Wild West alone, to seek thrills on the World Wide Web. If you could get that, it’d be a pretty useful machine.

Sony also demonstrated a range of Sony-Ericsson’s Android phones, named Xperia, which is now finally available in the U.S. market via AT&T. Android Market – equivalent to Apple’s App Store – lets Xperia phone users download apps including different types of keyboards, desktop panels and even a Blu-ray disk remote control. 

Sony-Ericsson's Android phone: Xperia

Once you download on your phone a “remote control,” which is a free app by the way, according to Steve Medina, product manager at Sony’s information technology product division, your phone becomes a remote control unit for Sony’s Blu-ray players or TV sets.

Because it’s WiFi-based, not infra-red, it doesn’t require a line of sight. In other words, I can be in the next room to change the Red Sox game my husband’s watching on our flat panel TV in the living room to one of my favorite movies like ”My Cousin Vinny” on our Blu-ray.

Call me mean.

But of course, I forgot. We don’t own Sony’s Blu-ray player, controllable with an Android phone. For that matter, I don’t have an Android phone, either. Oh, well. I can dream on, can’t I?







selinz

8/26/2010 10:49 AM EDT

Well, I own a Sony Blue-Ray player, Sony DVD player, a sony Game Console, a Sony multiMedia Center complete with 250Gb HD and Bluetooth remote, and a Sony video streaming box. It communicates with my Windows network, goes online through my standard DSL router, and pretty much seems like it can do anything. How do I fit this in my stereo rack? It's all in one box and it's called a PS3!

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junko.yoshida

8/26/2010 11:29 AM EDT

OK, Selinz. You win. Obviously, you beat me with your PS3. One tends to forget what a powerful box that is.

That's a good reminder for everyone.

But then, how do you plan to upgrade your PS3-based entertainment system with a new "Google TV" feature?

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selinz

8/26/2010 1:30 PM EDT

I suspect that, as with netflix, you can simply pop in a disk and/or download a program to run it from the PS3 (which is a Linux box)... Reading the article reminded me that the PS3 should be remote contrallable via bluetooth from my WinMo phone.... I'll have to look for an app!

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junko.yoshida

8/26/2010 5:08 PM EDT

Let me know when you found an app!

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Bob Lacovara

8/26/2010 3:16 PM EDT

While the technology is being untrundled from Sony's and Google's trunk, I'd like to make an observation about 3D, not 3D TV per se. 3D imaging has been around from the early days of photography: remember the hand-held viewers of scenic trips found in every parlor (in 1910), and the Viewmaster 3D viewers that many of us had as kids. Everyone has seen 3D movies and Imax presentations. Trouble is, 3D seems to come and go, and has yet to arrive to stay except in niches. (I think I'd call 3D movies and Imax a niche, although someone may take me to task.) Will 3D make it, and stay, this time in TV? The determining factor isn't how nifty the technology is, or the quality of the experience. The determinant is that people find that 3D is worth the extra cost over what they have now. I'm not sure how this one will go, but if I had to guess, I would say this: 3D will appear, make a small splash, and sink away again. I may be wrong, of course. It will be interesting to see.

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vivekv80

8/26/2010 3:17 PM EDT

Come to think about it, Sony was able to release their netbox a week before the impending Apple iTV. Experia has been in the UK market and has been slow coming to US. Xperia is a decent phone as per this YouTube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7xSzISFtGs

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phoenixdave

8/26/2010 4:13 PM EDT

I believe Sony is also working on a 3D flat screen TV that will not require any 'special goggles" to view the 3D images. Hopefully the old Sony quality will come back with the new Sony technology innovation.

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Sheetal.Pandey

8/26/2010 5:35 PM EDT

Sounds exciting!

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kinnar

8/27/2010 3:05 AM EDT

GoogleTV on Sony Receivers, it is an excellent idea, even it would be simply great TV on demand if the technology gets accepted both commercially and technically.
In the mean time since the youtube is owned by google, the world will become more shrink because and it will add up more towards education as well due to lots of educational videos available on youtube.
On the other side the monopoly of TV Channels will no more be there. Good Idea Right?

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Rick Merritt

8/27/2010 4:01 AM EDT

Did they say anything about auto-stereoscopic 3-DTVs? Reports are emerging they and Toshiba both plan them, despute the fact ebveryone I have talked to so far said the tech is not ready for prime time.

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jimcondon

8/27/2010 10:00 AM EDT

Rick,

I think you're spot on about the auto-stereoscopic 3D TVs not being ready for prime time. I know Toshiba's talking about it, but Panasonic has publicly stated that it's years away from HD auto-stereoscopic 3D, and another oem I work with has stated the same thing.

I think everyone's over-excited by the Nintendo handheld reviews, but it's a long way to from a low-res handheld for one person to a large 3D HD TV with multiple people watch at various viewing angles.

Jim

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jimcondon

8/27/2010 10:10 AM EDT

It's unfortunate that Sony didn't show any GoogleTV demos. The demos coming out on the network are making GoogleTV look more and more compelling. The one from Comic-con (http://www.appmarket.tv/news/160-breaking-news/503-google-tv-interface-revealed.html) showing the "queue" looks very interesting. If it's extended to commercial content and not just podcasts, it pulls my favorite feature of Hulu into GoogleTV.

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junko.yoshida

8/27/2010 11:24 AM EDT

Jimcondon, yes, it is the same video clip of Google TV demo I flagged in my story. Isn't it fascinating?

I was never a big fan for some lame ideas of bringing interactive elements from the Web to TV; but I do like the "search" function Google TV brings.

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Dave.Dykstra

8/30/2010 3:04 AM EDT

Personally, I think some of the other products are far more exciting than Google TV, although I think such a search function would be somewhat useful. Of course, like most of us I already have some search capabilities from my cable provider (although only for what they provide and not for local broadcast, online, or whatever). But for most of us, that is more than adequate since that is what we are going to watch (and that is the search function we are going to use). I do make use of my Bravia Video Internet Link from time to time, but that is not my major source of deciding what to watch on my TV. While I do not generally consider myself a videophile, I am generally disappointed by the typical video quality from some of the alternative sources, especially on-line videos.

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jimcondon

8/30/2010 10:24 AM EDT

Dave,

I agree with the video quality issue with online video, but lately with hulu and the studio websites, the video is good enough that it doesn't bug me anymore. (purely subjective I admit)

But video quality is completely offset by the fact that with on-line video I have access to an almost universal PVR for the shows I watch without worrying about setting up recording or season passes which makes life very convenient.

If TV Everywhere takes off, I hope I can get everything I get through Dish over the net.

This is the number one feature of on-line video in my opinion. I'm not going to cut the cable but with GoogleTV, TV Everywhere and online video I may start ignoring my PVR.

Jim

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